{"id":17665,"date":"2021-07-22T11:44:28","date_gmt":"2021-07-22T15:44:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ilsr.org\/articles\/zero-waste-efforts-bring-benefits-build-community-in-gainesville-episode-131-of-building-local-power\/"},"modified":"2025-10-17T14:47:39","modified_gmt":"2025-10-17T18:47:39","slug":"gainesville-zero-waste-episode131","status":"publish","type":"article","link":"https:\/\/ilsr.org\/es\/article\/composting-for-community\/gainesville-zero-waste-episode131","title":{"rendered":"Esfuerzos de Residuos Cero Generan Beneficios y Crean Comunidad en Gainesville \u2014 Episodio 131 de Building Local Power"},"template":"","class_list":["post-17665","article","type-article","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","article_type-podcasts-videos","initiatives-composting-for-community","topics-building-local-power","authors-jess-del-fiacco"],"acf":{"details":{"featured_image":2075,"background_color":"tan","article_type":[34],"initiative":15,"display_event_fields":false,"start_date":null,"end_date":null,"start_time":null,"end_time":null,"time_zone":"America\/New_York","virtual_event":false,"location":"","topics":[58],"impact_areas":false,"abstract":"<p>Host Jess Del Fiacco and Neil Seldman, Director of ILSR&#8217;s Waste to Wealth initiative, interview three zero waste advocates from Gainesville, Fla. &hellip; <a class=\"kt-excerpt-readmore\" href=\"https:\/\/ilsr.org\/gainesville-zero-waste-episode131\/\" aria-label=\"Zero Waste Efforts Bring Benefits, Build Community in Gainesville  \u2014 Episode 131 of Building Local Power\">Read More<\/a><\/p>\r\n","authors_tax":[597]},"sidebar":{"title":"\u00cdndice"},"page_layout":[{"acf_fc_layout":"layout_wysiwyg","_acfe_flexible_toggle":"","component_wysiwyg":{"content":"<div class=\"ttr_start\"><\/div><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fbuilding_local_power%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fbuilding_local_power%2F2021-07-22-blp131-gainesville-zero-waste.mp3&amp;podcast_link=https%3A%2F%2Filsr.org%2Fgainesville-zero-waste-episode131%2F#mode-Light&border-000000&progress-000000\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Reproductor de podcasts Blubrry\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast (buildinglocalpower): <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/building_local_power\/content.blubrry.com\/building_local_power\/2021-07-22-blp131-gainesville-zero-waste.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Reproducir en una nueva ventana\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/ilsr.org\/?powerpress_pinw=91242-buildinglocalpower');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Reproducir en una nueva ventana<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/building_local_power\/content.blubrry.com\/building_local_power\/2021-07-22-blp131-gainesville-zero-waste.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Descargar\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"2021-07-22-blp131-gainesville-zero-waste.mp3\">Descargar<\/a> | <a href=\"#\" class=\"powerpress_link_e\" title=\"Incrustar\" onclick=\"return powerpress_show_embed('91242-buildinglocalpower');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Incrustar<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_embed_box\" id=\"powerpress_embed_91242-buildinglocalpower\" style=\"display: none;\"><input id=\"powerpress_embed_91242-buildinglocalpower_t\" type=\"text\" value=\"&lt;iframe src=&quot;https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fbuilding_local_power%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fbuilding_local_power%2F2021-07-22-blp131-gainesville-zero-waste.mp3&amp;podcast_link=https%3A%2F%2Filsr.org%2Fgainesville-zero-waste-episode131%2F#mode-Light&amp;border-000000&amp;progress-000000&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot; height=&quot;165&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; id=&quot;blubrryplayer-2&quot; class=&quot;blubrryplayer&quot; title=&quot;Blubrry Podcast Player&quot;&gt;&lt;\/iframe&gt;\" onclick=\"javascript: this.select();\" onfocus=\"javascript: this.select();\" style=\"width: 70%;\" readonly><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Suscr\u00edbete: <a href=\"https:\/\/ilsr.org\/feed\/buildinglocalpower\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Suscr\u00edbete a trav\u00e9s de RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><\/span><\/p>\r\n<p>En este episodio de Building Local Power, la presentadora Jess Del Fiacco y Neil Seldman, Director de la iniciativa Waste to Wealth de ILSR, entrevistan a tres activistas de cero residuos de Gainesville, Florida. Amanda Waddle y Nina Bhattacharyya son copresidentas de Zero Waste Gainesville, y Sarah Goff es Cofundadora y Directora Ejecutiva de Repurpose Project, donde Amanda tambi\u00e9n es directora de Zero Waste.<\/p>\r\n<p>Su discusi\u00f3n trata sobre:<\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li>La importancia de los programas de pago por generaci\u00f3n (PAYT), y <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zerowastegainesville.com\/\">Zero Waste Gainesville<\/a> campa\u00f1a para mantener el PAYT en la ciudad. <em>(Actualizaci\u00f3n: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zerowastegainesville.com\/updates\">\u00a1La campa\u00f1a fue un \u00e9xito!<\/a>)\u00a0<\/em><\/li>\r\n<li>C\u00f3mo el <a href=\"https:\/\/www.repurposeproject.org\/\">Proyecto de reutilizaci\u00f3n<\/a> c\u00f3mo comenz\u00f3, c\u00f3mo la pandemia impact\u00f3 las operaciones y los esfuerzos actuales para expandirse a un nuevo espacio m\u00e1s grande.<\/li>\r\n<li>La relaci\u00f3n entre el Repurpose Project y la ciudad de Gainesville.<\/li>\r\n<li>El impacto del Repurpose Project en la econom\u00eda local, la comunidad y el medio ambiente.<\/li>\r\n<li>Los v\u00ednculos entre justicia ambiental y reutilizaci\u00f3n, y c\u00f3mo garantizar que los programas de reutilizaci\u00f3n sean equitativos.<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<h2>\u201cY uno de mis momentos favoritos fue al momento de pagar. Hab\u00eda una fila y era muy diversa. Era como si cada estereotipo de persona estuviera en fila junta. Y se hablaban entre s\u00ed sobre lo que iban a hacer con los art\u00edculos que estaban comprando. Y se sent\u00eda tan bien. \u00c9ramos mucho m\u00e1s que una tienda. Est\u00e1bamos construyendo esta comunidad, reuniendo a personas que quiz\u00e1s no se habr\u00edan unido de otra manera. Con el objetivo com\u00fan de crear, reciclar y ahorrar dinero... Siento que hay mucho potencial all\u00ed en tantos niveles con la expansi\u00f3n de la Reutilizaci\u00f3n.\u201d<\/h2>\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<div class=\"panel-group\" id=\"accordionname93\"><div class=\"panel panel-default panel-even\"><div class=\"panel-heading\"><a class=\"accordion-toggle collapsed\" data-toggle=\"collapse\" data-parent=\"#accordionname93\" href=\"#collapse930\"><h5><i class=\"icon-minus primary-color\"><\/i><i class=\"icon-plus\"><\/i>Recursos relacionados<\/h5><\/a><\/div><div id=\"collapse930\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse\"><div class=\"panel-body postclass\">\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zerowastegainesville.com\/updates\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.zerowastegainesville.com\/updates&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1626881778183000&amp;usg=AFQjCNGoHcNK-Zfa67nTBL_UMO7p9IL3PA\">Cero Desperdicio Gainesville<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/ilsr.org\/neil-seldman-reviews-the-repair-revolution\/\">La Revoluci\u00f3n de la Reparaci\u00f3n <\/a><\/em>por John Wachman y Elizabeth Knight<\/p>\r\n<p>Grabaci\u00f3n del seminario web: <a href=\"https:\/\/ilsr.org\/webinar-reuse-repair-creating-new-jobs-and-enterprises-through-zero-waste\/\">\u201cReutilizaci\u00f3n y Reparaci\u00f3n: Creando Nuevos Empleos y Empresas a trav\u00e9s de Cero Residuos\u201d<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ilsr.org\/update-on-building-deconstruction-initiatives-in-several-u-s-cities\/\">Informe Riqueza en Nuestros Muros,<\/a> Ciudad de San Antonio, Texas<\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/reusemn.org\/\">Reuso Minnesota<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/community-wealth.org\/content\/building-materials-reuse-association\">Alianza para la Reutilizaci\u00f3n de Materiales de Construcci\u00f3n (BMRA)<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/recyclehawaii.org\/\">Recicla Haw\u00e1i<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.austintexas.gov\/department\/austin-resource-recovery#:~:text=Austin%20Resource%20Recovery%20provides%20a,to%20landfills%20by%2090%20percent.\">Departamento de Recuperaci\u00f3n de Recursos, Austin, Texas<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p>Cynthia Isenhour, Universidad de Maine<br \/>\r\nDatos econ\u00f3micos y sociol\u00f3gicos sobre el sector de la reutilizaci\u00f3n.<br \/>\r\nContacto: <a href=\"mailto:cynthia.isenhour@maine.edu\">cynthia.isenhour@maine.edu<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.secondchanceinc.org\/\">Segunda Oportunidad Deconstrucci\u00f3n<\/a>, Baltimore<br \/>\r\nContacto: Mark Foster, <a href=\"mailto:Mark@secondchanceinc.org\">Mark@secondchanceinc.org<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/thereusepeople.org\/\">La Gente Reutilizadora<\/a><br \/>\r\nContacto: Ted Reiff,<a href=\"mailto:tedreiff@thereusepeople.org\"> tedreiff@thereusepeople.org<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cleanairactionnetwork.org\/\">Red de Acci\u00f3n por un Aire Limpio<\/a>, Glens Falls, NY<br \/>\r\nContacto: Tracy Frisch, <a href=\"mailto:tracy.frisch@gmail.com\">tracy.frisch@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p>Cumbre de Cero Residuos de la Isla de Haw\u00e1i<br \/>\r\nContacto: Jennifer Navarra,<a href=\"mailto:jennifernavarra@gmail.com\"> jennifernavarra@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ilsr.org\/how-the-reuse-corridor-is-creating-wealth-from-waste-in-appalachia\/\">Corredor de Reutilizaci\u00f3n<\/a>, Red Regional de los Apalaches Centrales<br \/>\r\nContacto: Jacob Hannah, <a href=\"mailto:jhannah@coalfield-development.org\">jhannah@coalfield-development.org<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ilsr.org\/how-the-reuse-corridor-is-creating-wealth-from-waste-in-appalachia\/\">Acci\u00f3n Rural<\/a><br \/>\r\nContacto: Ed Newman, ed@ruralaction.org<\/p>\r\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\r\n<div class=\"panel panel-default panel-odd\"><div class=\"panel-heading\"><a class=\"accordion-toggle collapsed\" data-toggle=\"collapse\" data-parent=\"#accordionname93\" href=\"#collapse931\"><h5><i class=\"icon-minus primary-color\"><\/i><i class=\"icon-plus\"><\/i>Transcripci\u00f3n<\/h5><\/a><\/div><div id=\"collapse931\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse\"><div class=\"panel-body postclass\">\r\n<table style=\"width: 998px;\">\r\n<tbody>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Hola y bienvenidos a Building Local Power. Un podcast dedicado a conversaciones que invitan a la reflexi\u00f3n sobre c\u00f3mo podemos desafiar los monopolios corporativos y expandir el poder de las personas para dar forma a su propio futuro. Soy Jess Del Fiacco, la anfitriona de Building Local Power y Gerente de Comunicaciones en el Institute for Local Self-Reliance. Durante m\u00e1s de 45 a\u00f1os, ILSR ha trabajado para construir comunidades pr\u00f3speras y equitativas donde el poder, la riqueza y la rendici\u00f3n de cuentas est\u00e9n en manos locales.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Y hola, hoy estoy con mi colega Neil Seldman, quien dirige el programa \"Waste to Wealth\" (De Desechos a Riqueza) de ILSR. Y nos acompa\u00f1a un gran grupo de Gainesville, Florida. Amanda Waddle y Nina Bhattacharyya son las copresidentas de Zero Waste Gainesville. Y Sarah Goff es la cofundadora y directora ejecutiva de The Repurpose Project, donde Amanda tambi\u00e9n es la directora de Zero Waste. As\u00ed que, \u00a1bienvenidos a todos!.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Hola.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Hola.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Gracias por recibirnos.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">S\u00ed, por supuesto. Creo que un buen punto de partida ser\u00eda si cada uno de ustedes pudiera hablar brevemente sobre sus organizaciones, su experiencia y por qu\u00e9 decidieron involucrarse en Reutilizaci\u00f3n. Empecemos con Sarah.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Ok. Inici\u00e9 el Proyecto de Reutilizaci\u00f3n hace 10 a\u00f1os. Ya hab\u00eda estado involucrado en la Reutilizaci\u00f3n, pero cuando llegu\u00e9 a Gainesville, vi que hab\u00eda muy poca infraestructura para que una gran cantidad de material utilizable volviera a manos del p\u00fablico. Las tiendas de segunda mano hacen un gran trabajo con ciertos materiales, pero hay tantos tipos diferentes de materiales que son pasados por alto en el mercado de la Reutilizaci\u00f3n. As\u00ed que decid\u00ed empezar una combinaci\u00f3n. Es pr\u00e1cticamente un centro de reutilizaci\u00f3n creativa y salvamento arquitect\u00f3nico. Ambas son grandes \u00e1reas del mercado de la Reutilizaci\u00f3n que necesitaban ver mejor\u00eda y que se hiciera m\u00e1s reutilizaci\u00f3n.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Amanda o Nina, si\u00e9ntanse libres de intervenir.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Amanda Waddle:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Puedo hacer una pausa rapidita. Soy Amanda. As\u00ed que he estado haciendo mucho trabajo de Residuo Cero como voluntaria durante a\u00f1os y a\u00f1os. Lo hice en Lafayette, Louisiana. Y luego, cuando me mud\u00e9 de regreso a Gainesville en 2017, me un\u00ed a Nina para ayudar, para dirigir Residuo Cero Gainesville. Y realmente me di cuenta de que la Reutilizaci\u00f3n es una gran parte del Residuo Cero hace tiempo y que realmente necesitamos enfatizar eso. As\u00ed que en 2019, habl\u00e9 con Sarah sobre iniciar un departamento de Residuo Cero en The Repurpose Project, para quemar lo que hacemos con Residuo Cero a trav\u00e9s de su tienda creativa de Reutilizaci\u00f3n en la organizaci\u00f3n sin fines de lucro. As\u00ed que entre Residuo Cero Gainesville y The Repurpose Project, realmente abordamos muchos aspectos, posiblemente todos los aspectos, del Residuo Cero en Gainesville, Florida. Y eso es algo bastante emocionante.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Gracias. Nina.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Soy codirectora de Zero Waste Gainesville junto con Amanda. Comenzamos con Zero Waste Gainesville en 2017 y nuestra misi\u00f3n es realmente doble. Educamos a la comunidad sobre cosas que pueden hacer para reducir los residuos en sus vidas, es decir, elecciones de estilo de vida, pero tambi\u00e9n abogamos por pol\u00edticas de residuo cero a nivel local, tanto en nuestra ciudad como en nuestro condado. Y es por eso que realmente tratamos de enfocarnos en todos esos elementos clave de los residuos, tanto aguas arriba como aguas abajo, donde, por supuesto, la reutilizaci\u00f3n es una parte muy importante. Adem\u00e1s de simplemente rechazar materiales de plano, o reutilizarlos. Y luego tambi\u00e9n abordamos esas acciones aguas abajo, como el reciclaje y el compostaje.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Quiz\u00e1s podr\u00eda agregar en este momento que al final de nuestra transmisi\u00f3n, publicaremos referencias de rese\u00f1as, actividad e informes t\u00e9cnicos sobre el impacto de la reutilizaci\u00f3n en las econom\u00edas locales en todo el pa\u00eds. As\u00ed que estamos destacando el Repurpose Center en Gainesville, pero es t\u00edpico de mucha actividad, lo que lo convierte en un gran impacto econ\u00f3mico y sociol\u00f3gico en las comunidades. Y est\u00e1 creciendo muy, muy r\u00e1pidamente, estimulado por la experiencia de COVID que todos hemos atravesado.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">S\u00ed. Gracias, Neil. Tendremos esa lista de recursos. Hablaremos m\u00e1s de eso despu\u00e9s, pero estar\u00e1n todos en las notas del episodio. Puedes encontrarlos en ilsr.org. As\u00ed que Nina, volviendo a lo que est\u00e1s trabajando en Gainesville ahora mismo, \u00bfpodr\u00edas hablar sobre una campa\u00f1a para mantener el Pago por Uso (Pay-As-You-Throw) en Gainesville? \u00bfQu\u00e9 significa Pago por Uso? Y luego, \u00bfqu\u00e9 est\u00e1 pasando en el terreno ahora mismo?<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Claro. S\u00ed. Entonces, para los oyentes que no est\u00e1n tan familiarizados con el sistema de pago por generaci\u00f3n de residuos, es un programa que esencialmente permite a las personas pagar por la cantidad de desechos que generan. Y lo que eso significa es que aqu\u00ed en Gainesville, tenemos diferentes tama\u00f1os de contenedores de basura y la gente paga una cantidad menor por un contenedor de basura de menor tama\u00f1o. Y luego eso aumenta progresivamente con el aumento del tama\u00f1o de su contenedor de basura.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Y as\u00ed, este programa ha estado vigente desde 1994 en Gainesville. Y entr\u00f3 en vigor porque nosotros, como comunidad, reconocemos el valor de permitir que las personas paguen realmente por el tama\u00f1o de su contenedor de basura. Y cuando las personas eligen contenedores de basura de menor tama\u00f1o, producen menos desechos, lo que tambi\u00e9n nos ayuda en nuestros esfuerzos de cero residuos. As\u00ed que, solo para darles un poco de contexto sobre el tema. Este programa ha estado vigente, como mencion\u00e9, desde 1994, con muy poca participaci\u00f3n. Y parec\u00eda ir muy bien y la gente usaba sus contenedores de diferentes tama\u00f1os.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">La ciudad de Gainesville estableci\u00f3 recientemente una oficina de equidad e inclusi\u00f3n, una oficina muy importante de tener y de contar con personal. B\u00e1sicamente, revisan las pol\u00edticas de programas, revisan los contratos que la ciudad celebra, para evaluar esos elementos y asegurarse de que se considere la equidad. No estamos sobrecargando a nuestras comunidades de bajos ingresos. Y as\u00ed, la oficina de equidad e inclusi\u00f3n de la ciudad realiz\u00f3 un an\u00e1lisis inicial de nuestro contrato de gesti\u00f3n de residuos, que pronto saldr\u00e1 a licitaci\u00f3n.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Y hab\u00edan descubierto que este programa parec\u00eda ser inequitativo porque nuestras comunidades de bajos ingresos tend\u00edan a tener carros de mayor tama\u00f1o y luego se ve\u00edan sobrecargadas con esos costos incrementales por los tama\u00f1os de los carros. As\u00ed que hubo una preocupaci\u00f3n muy grande all\u00ed. Y como parte de este an\u00e1lisis, presentaron una recomendaci\u00f3n de que la ciudad pasara a un sistema de tarifa fija para los tama\u00f1os de los carros.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">As\u00ed que todos pagar\u00e1n, en general, el mismo precio por sus desechos. Y as\u00ed, bas\u00e1ndose en esta recomendaci\u00f3n de la oficina de equidad e inclusi\u00f3n de la ciudad, la comisi\u00f3n vot\u00f3 cinco a dos para eliminar el programa de Pago Por Uso y establecer un sistema de tarifa fija. Bueno, Zero Waste Gainesville estaba realmente frustrado con esa decisi\u00f3n. Nuevamente, vemos el valor completamente en el sistema de Pago Por Uso, es vital para nuestros esfuerzos de reducci\u00f3n de desechos. Y tambi\u00e9n sab\u00edamos que el programa pod\u00eda adaptarse y hacerse flexible para abordar cualquier problema o inquietud sobre la equidad.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">As\u00ed que ese mismo d\u00eda, se llev\u00f3 a cabo esta votaci\u00f3n, nos reunimos. Estaba Amanda, yo y mi esposo, quien tambi\u00e9n est\u00e1 muy involucrado localmente en campa\u00f1as y activismo. Y discutimos lo que necesit\u00e1bamos hacer, para impulsar las cosas que se pod\u00edan hacer para que el programa fuera equitativo. Y para animar a la comisi\u00f3n de la ciudad a reconsiderar esta votaci\u00f3n y restablecer el programa \"Paga por lo que tiras\". As\u00ed que si te parece bien, puedo entrar en algunos de los detalles de las acciones que tomamos ahora, o si tienes alguna otra pregunta.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">S\u00ed. En primer lugar, este es un tema muy importante en todo el pa\u00eds. Ciudades como Baltimore y D.C. est\u00e1n considerando el pago por bolsa (\"Pay-As-You-Throw\"). Y existe una profunda preocupaci\u00f3n por el impacto en las familias y hogares de bajos y moderados ingresos. As\u00ed que Nina, \u00bfpodr\u00edas comenzar con el estado actual? \u00bfSe derog\u00f3 la nueva ley o todav\u00eda hay una batalla pol\u00edtica en curso?<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">As\u00ed que en nuestros esfuerzos de campa\u00f1a, logramos que la Comisi\u00f3n de la Ciudad reconsiderara esa votaci\u00f3n. As\u00ed que despu\u00e9s de nuestra campa\u00f1a de divulgaci\u00f3n y educaci\u00f3n, la reconsideraron por unanimidad. Y b\u00e1sicamente dijeron que nos gustar\u00eda seguir adelante nuevamente con el sistema de Pago por Uso, pero que luego volver\u00edamos a la mesa en el verano para discutir c\u00f3mo podemos buscar formas de hacerlo m\u00e1s equitativo. As\u00ed que revocaron su decisi\u00f3n original de eliminar b\u00e1sicamente el programa de Pago por Uso, pero quieren tener conversaciones adicionales en este momento.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Bueno, primero que nada, quiero felicitarte por darle un giro a las cosas.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Gracias.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">En mi experiencia con el sistema de \"Pago por Desecho\", hay muchas maneras diferentes de proteger a las personas de bajos ingresos, inquilinos o propietarios, para que el sistema pueda funcionar. Me mantendr\u00e9 en contacto con usted porque los resultados de c\u00f3mo modifique su sistema para acomodar a las personas de bajos ingresos ser\u00e1n muy interesantes para el resto del pa\u00eds. As\u00ed que nos mantendremos en contacto con usted sobre eso. Y lo felicito por lograr lo que ha hecho hasta ahora. Cualquier informaci\u00f3n, ya sea ahora o a medida que contemple las nuevas pol\u00edticas, agradecer\u00edamos esos detalles.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Absolutamente. As\u00ed que nuestro rol definitivamente ser\u00e1 y continuar\u00e1 siendo reunirnos con los comisionados, educar a nuestra comunidad sobre los beneficios de Pagar por Desecho y las formas de hacerlo un programa equitativo. Y as\u00ed presentaremos recomendaciones y hemos estado presentando recomendaciones a la Comisi\u00f3n de la Ciudad, sobre c\u00f3mo pueden adoptar diferentes estrategias para hacerlo un programa equitativo.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Para nosotros, por supuesto, la educaci\u00f3n y la divulgaci\u00f3n son siempre clave. Sabemos que hay mucha gente en nuestra comunidad que ni siquiera sabe que existe un sistema de Pago Por Uso (Pay-As-You-Throw) y que pueden obtener un contenedor de basura m\u00e1s peque\u00f1o y pagar menos. Por lo tanto, eso es lo primero y principal en nuestras mentes, tener realmente una campa\u00f1a espec\u00edfica para lograrlo. Y eso debe ser liderado por la ciudad y su departamento de residuos s\u00f3lidos.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Y luego, a partir de ah\u00ed, existen otras estrategias como sistemas de exenci\u00f3n para aquellos que realmente necesitan ayuda, para poder pagar sus residuos. Eso podr\u00eda ser algo que se proponga. Hemos elaborado una lista de recomendaciones para que la comisi\u00f3n las considere en este momento. Me voy a despedir, en realidad; si van a pasar a Reutilizaci\u00f3n, les agradezco mucho por habernos recibido.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Genial. Y gracias por la informaci\u00f3n y por tu trabajo, por supuesto, Nina.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Nina Bhattacha\u2026:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Claro. Es un placer conocerlos a todos virtualmente.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">De nada. Gracias.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Gracias. Muy bien. Regresaremos en un minuto con m\u00e1s informaci\u00f3n sobre los esfuerzos de desperdicio cero en Gainesville de nuestras otras invitadas, Sarah y Amanda. Pero primero, vamos a tomar un breve descanso. Gracias por escuchar nuestro programa. Si est\u00e1 disfrutando de esta conversaci\u00f3n, espero que considere visitar ilsr.org\/donate para ayudarnos. Su donaci\u00f3n hace posible este podcast, as\u00ed como todo el trabajo que hacemos aqu\u00ed en ILSR.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Puedes visitar ilsr.org\/donate para hacer una contribuci\u00f3n hoy. Cualquier monto es sinceramente apreciado. Y mientras est\u00e1s ah\u00ed, quiz\u00e1s quieras echar un vistazo a los otros programas de la familia de podcasts de ILSR. Tenemos programas que cubren desde banda ancha hasta compostaje. Gracias por escuchar. Ahora volvamos al programa. Pasando a Sarah y Amanda. Ambas trabajan en el Proyecto Reutilizar. Sarah, \u00bfpodr\u00edas hablar sobre qu\u00e9 es el Proyecto Reutilizar y c\u00f3mo empez\u00f3?<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">S\u00ed. As\u00ed que mi experiencia antes de iniciar el Proyecto Reutilizar era la reutilizaci\u00f3n creativa, que b\u00e1sicamente son manualidades y cositas que se pueden incorporar y reutilizar en otras cosas. As\u00ed que muchos \u00fatiles escolares, materiales de arte, cualquier cosa aleatoria que tenga valor, que no se ve en una tienda de segunda mano tradicional. Y luego conoc\u00ed a un colega que ya estaba trabajando en Gainesville haciendo deconstrucci\u00f3n. Y \u00e9l estaba muy apasionado por el rescate arquitect\u00f3nico, que es una gran parte del flujo de residuos que no se est\u00e1 reutilizando.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Disculpe, debo interrumpir. Quiero nombrar a las personas con las que trabaja, las maravillosas personas, la compa\u00f1\u00eda de deconstrucci\u00f3n Bearded Brothers de Gainesville. Y Mike Myers, quien creo que ahora est\u00e1 retirado, fue uno de los fundadores de esa. Un gran defensor de cero residuos y una gran persona de deconstrucci\u00f3n. Solo quer\u00eda mencionar su nombre.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">S\u00ed. Gracias. S\u00ed. Nos conocimos y \u00e9ramos una pareja un tanto extra\u00f1a para empezar, pero realmente ten\u00eda mucho sentido con su experiencia y la m\u00eda, y simplemente lo combinamos. Y creo que la combinaci\u00f3n de recuperaci\u00f3n arquitect\u00f3nica con reutilizaci\u00f3n creativa tiene mucho sentido. Porque la reutilizaci\u00f3n creativa no genera muchos fondos y la recuperaci\u00f3n arquitect\u00f3nica s\u00ed. As\u00ed que al combinarlas, pudimos crear una organizaci\u00f3n autofinanciada.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Y creo que eso es importante de considerar, porque hay muchas cosas que deber\u00edan ser reutilizadas pero que no generan muchos ingresos. Y al tener algunos art\u00edculos de reutilizaci\u00f3n que generan ingresos, tambi\u00e9n pueden subvencionar algunas de estas otras cosas importantes que son realmente \u00fatiles para que la comunidad las reutilice. Y especialmente los suministros que los maestros y los estudiantes vienen a buscar. Queremos brindar ese servicio. Y poder tener art\u00edculos de mayores ingresos nos ayuda a poder brindar ese servicio.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">S\u00ed. \u00bfPodr\u00edas hablar un poco m\u00e1s sobre tu relaci\u00f3n con la econom\u00eda local y tu fuerza laboral, y qu\u00e9 impacto tiene eso?<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">S\u00ed. Empezamos de forma modesta y hemos seguido creciendo, y parece que nuestro crecimiento es exponencial. Y eso realmente demuestra que lo que ofrecemos es muy necesario y muy deseado. Cuando empezamos hace 10 a\u00f1os, todo era dirigido por voluntarios y muy pronto nos dimos cuenta de que necesit\u00e1bamos a alguien a tiempo completo. As\u00ed que me contrataron a m\u00ed y ahora somos 22 personas, creo.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Tenemos unas 100 a 200 ventas por d\u00eda. Abrimos seis d\u00edas a la semana y nuestro estacionamiento est\u00e1 constantemente lleno. Y nuestro almac\u00e9n, nuestro edificio ahora mismo est\u00e1 lleno. As\u00ed que acabamos de comprar una segunda ubicaci\u00f3n. Por lo tanto, esperamos un crecimiento a\u00fan m\u00e1s r\u00e1pido este a\u00f1o. Quiero decir, no me sorprender\u00eda si duplicamos todas nuestras cifras en los pr\u00f3ximos dos a\u00f1os.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah, te he escuchado hablar antes y, si no me equivoco \u2014corr\u00edgeme si me equivoco\u2014, empezaste con 93 metros cuadrados, pasaste a 280 metros cuadrados y ahora das el salto a este enorme almac\u00e9n de 9300 metros cuadrados. Todo eso ocurri\u00f3 en 10 a\u00f1os. \u00bfPodr\u00edas contarnos un poco c\u00f3mo financiaste la compra de tu nuevo almac\u00e9n?<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">S\u00ed. Bueno, originalmente pensamos que ten\u00edamos un pr\u00e9stamo bancario. Hablamos con nuestro banco, con el que hemos estado operando durante 10 a\u00f1os, y nos dieron un monto de pr\u00e9stamo que no fue suficiente para el edificio. As\u00ed que lanzamos una campa\u00f1a de recaudaci\u00f3n de fondos. Y quedamos absolutamente asombrados por el apoyo del p\u00fablico. R\u00e1pidamente recaudamos $150,000 en 60 d\u00edas. Y durante ese tiempo, el pr\u00e9stamo bancario finalmente se cancel\u00f3, lo cual fue muy dif\u00edcil de manejar despu\u00e9s de haber recaudado tanto dinero de tanta gente.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Probablemente tuvimos m\u00e1s de 500 donantes individuales para esos $150,000. Realmente es una historia incre\u00edble y demuestra el poder de nuestra comunidad y de desinvertir e invertir en organizaciones locales. Porque a la semana de enterarnos de que nuestro pr\u00e9stamo bancario hab\u00eda fallado, pudimos conseguir que siete prestamistas privados nos prestaran dinero y cubrieran la diferencia del pr\u00e9stamo bancario.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Y no solo eso, los prestamistas estaban realmente tratando de trabajar con nosotros, para llegar a acuerdos favorables que nos ayudaran a tener \u00e9xito a largo plazo. As\u00ed que, mientras el banco dec\u00eda: \u201cDemu\u00e9strennos que no van a fracasar para que no perdamos nuestra inversi\u00f3n\u201d. Estos prestamistas individuales dec\u00edan: \u201c\u00bfC\u00f3mo podemos estructurar esto para asegurarnos de que tengan \u00e9xito?\u201d. As\u00ed que ofrecieron retrasar el pago por siete meses para que pudi\u00e9ramos tener siete meses para organizar todo en el nuevo edificio antes de tener que empezar a pagar.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Fue un gran momento de aprendizaje para m\u00ed ver que no necesariamente tenemos que depender de las grandes instituciones para satisfacer todas nuestras necesidades. Realmente podemos recurrir a nuestra comunidad. Hay personas con dinero, dispuestas a invertir. Y de hecho, nos agradecieron poder invertir en una causa en la que cre\u00edan. No quer\u00edan poner su dinero en grandes empresas y en Wall Street, sino que vieron que \u00e9ramos una buena compa\u00f1\u00eda que estaba generando cambios positivos en nuestra comunidad. Y por eso, estuvieron dispuestas a retirar su dinero de situaciones de pr\u00e9stamos tradicionales y destinarlo a nosotros.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Es una gran historia de empoderamiento comunitario y, por supuesto, es un gran mensaje para ustedes de que est\u00e1n haciendo lo correcto. As\u00ed que solo quer\u00eda asegurarme de que Sarah hablara sobre la financiaci\u00f3n. Gracias por la interrupci\u00f3n, Jess.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Oh s\u00ed, claro. Eso fue genial. As\u00ed que esta pregunta podr\u00eda ser para Amanda, o tal vez para ambas. Tengo curiosidad, si tienen una relaci\u00f3n con la ciudad o el condado, y si es as\u00ed, \u00bfha evolucionado con los a\u00f1os?<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Amanda Waddle:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Hemos estado hablando con la ciudad y el condado por un tiempo. A\u00fan no hemos llegado a un acuerdo con ellos. Aunque creo que est\u00e1 a la vuelta de la esquina. De hecho, acabamos de tener una reuni\u00f3n por Zoom con ellos hoy, para hablar sobre un posible programa piloto, para evaluar el valor del material a granel en la acera. Quiero decir, creo que la mayor\u00eda de nosotros sabemos que cada vez que sales a dar una vuelta, vas a ver cosas de valor en la acera.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Amanda Waddle:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Y as\u00ed estamos hablando de hacer un programa piloto con ellos, en el que ir\u00edamos delante de los camiones de basura y recoger\u00edamos cualquier cosa de valor, y en realidad le pondr\u00edamos un c\u00f3digo de barras \u00fanico y un n\u00famero de referencia, para que podamos rastrearlo hasta las ventas. As\u00ed tendremos un monto exacto en d\u00f3lares del material utilizable que se est\u00e1 poniendo en la acera. Y creo que eso es realmente emocionante, porque hay mucho valor all\u00ed. Algo de lo que siempre hablo es que el reciclaje, por supuesto, es algo incre\u00edble y definitivamente deber\u00edamos hacerlo. Pero la reutilizaci\u00f3n est\u00e1 realmente pasada por alto en lo que respecta a los servicios municipales.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Amanda Waddle:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Y es algo que representa una gran parte de nuestros desechos en cuanto a volumen, pero tambi\u00e9n es una parte valiosa de nuestros desechos y realmente beneficiosa para las personas en la comunidad, especialmente para los miembros de bajos ingresos de la comunidad, tener acceso a materiales de bajo costo. Y sin un sistema para recolectarlo, almacenarlo y revenderlo, necesitamos ese sistema. Y creo que tiene mucho sentido que sea parte de los servicios municipales de recolecci\u00f3n de residuos.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Me gustar\u00eda comentar dos cosas al respecto. Primero, un estudio realizado hace varios a\u00f1os en Oreg\u00f3n, en el condado de Lane, Eugene Oreg\u00f3n, donde hay un grupo de reciclaje muy activo. St. Vincent DePaul del condado de Lane. Su an\u00e1lisis econ\u00f3mico mostr\u00f3 que la existencia de estas 13 tiendas de segunda mano en el condado redujo el costo de vida de las personas de bajos ingresos en un 3%, lo cual, por supuesto, es fant\u00e1stico. El otro punto es que, si logran tener una recogida previa antes de que lleguen los camiones, eso podr\u00eda mejorar la recuperaci\u00f3n de objetos valiosos, no antig\u00fcedades, sino cosas antiguas que, si se desechan en la corriente de residuos, por supuesto, ser\u00edan destruidas.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">As\u00ed que es una t\u00e1ctica genial y innovadora. Y creo que Gainesville hace a\u00f1os, \u00bfno hicieron algo en Gainesville con la disposici\u00f3n de desechos electr\u00f3nicos o recolecci\u00f3n separada? Quiz\u00e1s fue otra ciudad. Puede que me est\u00e9 equivocando. Pero el concepto era que la gente sacara sus desechos electr\u00f3nicos separados de su basura. Para que pudiera ser recogido por un taller protegido para su reacondicionamiento.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">En realidad, ten\u00eda una pregunta un tanto similar. Me preguntaba si otras ciudades... Nunca antes hab\u00eda o\u00eddo hablar de rastrear los materiales, para rastrear esa cantidad de d\u00f3lares. As\u00ed que me pregunto si est\u00e1n buscando inspiraci\u00f3n en otro lugar para eso. \u00bfO es algo que simplemente est\u00e1n innovando?.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">En realidad, no he o\u00eddo hablar de eso, pero empezamos a hablarlo con nuestro nuevo edificio. Van a ser principalmente art\u00edculos grandes y voluminosos. As\u00ed que est\u00e1bamos investigando sistemas de c\u00f3digos de barras para eso. Y al mismo tiempo, justo est\u00e1bamos hablando con la ciudad sobre la recolecci\u00f3n de datos para este material a granel. As\u00ed que simplemente, no s\u00e9. Puede que exista, pero no he o\u00eddo hablar de ello.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Es una excelente innovaci\u00f3n y estaremos al pendiente.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about kind of what your customers and supporter base is like. If you have any particular great impact stories that you&#8217;ve had on the community, that you&#8217;ve seen or heard from customers.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Yeah. And that&#8217;s actually one of my favorite things about our store, is that we have a very diverse customer base. And especially in the last few years, the political climate is so divided. It seems like Reuse is one of the few issues that isn&#8217;t divided. It&#8217;s really supported by everyone, because I think everyone can see the value in Reuse. There&#8217;s no reason not to have more reuse. It benefits all the upstream issues with manufacturing.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Some people care about that, but also a lot of the downstream benefits of being able to access this material, it&#8217;s really, it feels like it&#8217;s bringing the community together. And one of my favorite moments, was at checkout. We had a line and it was just so diverse. It was almost like every single stereotype of a person was inline together. And they were talking to each other about what they were going to do with the items that they were buying.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">And it just felt so good. We were much more than a store. We were building this community, bringing people together, that maybe wouldn&#8217;t be brought together otherwise. For the common goal of just creating and salvaging and saving money. And I don&#8217;t know. I just feel like there&#8217;s so much potential there on so many levels with expanding Reuse.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">We had a Reuse a webinar a month ago. And Elizabeth Knight. K-N-I-G-H-T presented. She wrote the book, The Repair Revolution which I&#8217;ll mention later on in our resources. But she went into several anecdotes about the profound impact that not only people who brought things in through repair, but the repair people, the relationship between the repair people, teaching regular people how to fix their own things, it was an emotional psychological event, as well as the reuse of that. Your stories are being multiplied thousands of times across the country.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Yeah. That kind of reminds me too. We recently picked up 100 washers and dryers stack units, that it was a remodel, a multi apartment complex remodel. So I mean, they were all in working condition. But that was also very touching because a lot of the people that were buying them, were low income families that were going to laundromats. So it goes beyond that. We&#8217;re improving people&#8217;s lives by making this stuff available.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">It&#8217;s not just like we started off maybe thinking it was more of an environmental and now we really see that it&#8217;s a social organization. It really is helping people and it&#8217;s helping animals, because there&#8217;s less habitat loss. And we&#8217;re also helping the environment.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">It&#8217;s really kind of exemplifying environmental justice principles it sounds like. You&#8217;re covering all sides.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Yeah. And that&#8217;s something, I guess I&#8217;ll touch on that Pay-As-You-Throw thing too, because they were really focusing on just the cost impact of the trash carts. But what I saw right away, is the environmental injustice that&#8217;s happening in upstream manufacturing. And then also the waste disposal. Landfills are pretty much always located in low-income communities that have, there&#8217;s a lot of equity issues as far as the manufacturing stuff and the disposal of our stuff. And I think that that&#8217;s really important to consider, looking at the whole picture of equity and the waste stream.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">This is independent verification, but when we interviewed people like the Reuse carter and Central Appalachia, the impact, the psychological impact on workers, on people in the community is just tremendous. And it really is needed at a time when community people need more resources and the waste stream is just overwhelming us across the country. The more reuse, the better off we all are economically environmentally and socially. Sarah, could you talk about your workforce. How you recruit your workers there, the wages, pay conditions, things like that. So people get a sense of what it&#8217;s like to work in a Reuse center.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Yeah. We&#8217;re constantly trying to increase our wages. Right now, our average wage is $14 an hour. And for this area, that&#8217;s right at the living wage. And we&#8217;re considerably higher than most of the other big box retailers in our area. Definitely this new building and the types of material that we&#8217;re going to be able to resell, we&#8217;re hoping to be able to increase our wages. Florida passed a $15 minimum wage, which is a dollar increase every year for the next five years.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">And we&#8217;re hoping that we can get there this year, to starting wage $15 an hour. But we want it to be more, so we&#8217;re continuing to try to innovate and streamline and make things efficient. It&#8217;s definitely reuse is a hard job. It&#8217;s overwhelming the amount of stuff and the types of material that we get in. But people really like working with us because it is rewarding. It&#8217;s not a boring retail job. It&#8217;s never boring. There&#8217;s always something going on.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">And we also are a little different in that we&#8217;re as horizontal of a structure as we can be. So we have meetings every week. Everyone has a lot of say over what&#8217;s going on as far as making sure that the working conditions are good and everything&#8217;s collaborative. And we make sure to recognize people have different lives. They&#8217;re coming from different backgrounds and making arrangements. So that it&#8217;s a good place to work.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">I just again, want to relate what you&#8217;re doing in Gainesville to other places across the country. Urban Ore which is in Berkeley, California, they&#8217;ve got about 30 workers and they&#8217;ve been in business for quite a while. At least 30, 40 years. Dan Knapp and Mary Lou Van Deventure, who are the married couple that own the place, they are now selling the business to their workers. They&#8217;ve been negotiating for about a year.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">And the workers are very enthusiastic about being worker owners. And they also highly praise their staff. I wanted to tell one other story that&#8217;s related. Dan and Mary Lou came back East a couple of years ago. And we drove over to Community Forklift in Prince George&#8217;s county, outside of D.C. And I just stood there and watched these four, Nancy and Ruth from Community Forklift. These four professionals with years and years of experience, going over their different procedures and learning from each other.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">It was one of those exciting lessons, a class lessons I ever had. It was quite wonderful. As you said, people are so friendly and willing to share information. It really is a statement about the culture that the reuse industry is bringing to cities all across the country. Rural areas as well as urban areas. You mentioned basically how many people provided the support, monetary support for the new move.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Is there a sense of how many different customers you have? Do you keep account? Obviously people come in more than one time. But is there a sense of how many people, or families you&#8217;re impacting in the Gainesville area? And related to that, do people come from outside of Gainesville to shop at your store, or bring donations?<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">That&#8217;s an interesting question. I haven&#8217;t &#8230; You mean as far as unique visitors. Like how many unique visitors? I bet I could probably run a report on a square, but I haven&#8217;t done that. I&#8217;m not sure. I do know that we have a lot of regulars. We have a lot of people that are there almost every day and a lot of people that spend hours and hours and hours there.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">I remember outside of Pittsburgh, they have a very good reuse operation. And I sat in the parking lot and just saw all day long, people going in and out smiling because they&#8217;re bringing stuff in and smiling because they got a bargain. So it&#8217;s really, it&#8217;s a social. And it&#8217;s quite lovely to hang out at Urban Ore and I&#8217;m sure your place as well. One other factor that I&#8217;ve learned from other reuse operations all over the country, is that many of the, a good part of their sales, goes to other stores that are going to resell what they get.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Like you&#8217;re supplying inventory for other restores. In fact, that a study just done by the University of Maine, they found out that sometimes 50 to 60% of sales from reuse stores, go to other stores that are going to resell it, either refurbish it a bit more and resell it. And I was wondering if you&#8217;ve kept data on that type of economic activity.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">We don&#8217;t either, but this is all good points that we should be tracking. I mean, I do know that we have a lot of resellers that come in. And we love that. We love that there&#8217;s people that are helping us get it back into use. And we&#8217;ve started doing a lot more eBay and Etsy, because it&#8217;s a lot easier to find the people who want this stuff online. Especially for the repair community. If we get broken sawing machine that parts are still useful for people who are looking for that specific part. And it&#8217;s a lot easier to find that specific part online for the person that needs it.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Yes. I do know that St. Vincent&#8217;s out in Lane County, Oregon, they use the internet for selling high-end pocketbooks and textiles that they&#8217;ve refashioned. And so it&#8217;s a balance between using the internet and of course, having a physical store. Is there an overlap between people who donate to you and people who buy? In other words, do people come in and give you stuff and then walk out with purchases?<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Yeah. I would say the majority of the people.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Really?<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Yep.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Okay. And another related question, which I again, I picked this up, how important reuse is from talking to other people around the country. Urban Ore just told us that through COVID, their business has really, not doubled, but greatly increased because they&#8217;ve been &#8230; And I&#8217;m sure you have declared unnecessary in this store to keep up. This year, they&#8217;re going to pay about a quarter of a million dollars in sales tax. And I was wondering, I know you have to pay sales tax. But isn&#8217;t it a large contribution to the city and I imagine there&#8217;s a state sales tax as well?<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Sarah Goff:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Yeah. That&#8217;s incredible. That&#8217;s incredible sales tax number. Yeah. We&#8217;re probably this year if without the new building, our sales tax for the year would be about 36,000 for the year.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Well, clearly it&#8217;s one of the few forms of recycling that pays sales tax. And of course, reuse is much more valuable than recycling, because you&#8217;re getting a product, not a raw material. Nina&#8217;s not here now, but Amanda, did you have any comments about your work at the Repurpose Project?<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Amanda Waddle:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Yeah. I can add in a little bit about when we started a zero waste department at Repurpose Project. So one of our goals when I set up this department and Sarah and I figured out what we wanted to do, is we wanted to work with schools. We wanted to create educational material. We wanted to work with small businesses and events. And so we really set up a program to tackle all of that. And working with the K through 12 schools pre COVID, we had to agree to work towards zero waste.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Amanda Waddle:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">And part of that, was creating education for them. So they can learn about all the components of zero waste, including reuse and how important reuse is. And another component was getting school supplies to some of the classrooms that didn&#8217;t have a lot of school supplies. The families couldn&#8217;t bring them in, the families couldn&#8217;t provide them. So I would take school supplies from the aisles at the Repurpose Project and take them into these classrooms. So we were able to supply them. We needed supplies for the students and the teachers. So that was part of what we were doing.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Amanda Waddle:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">We&#8217;re starting to pick that stuff back up now because it was on pause because of COVID. So I&#8217;m working with a middle school. And we&#8217;re making the plans this summer for how we&#8217;re going to start back in August. And part of that, is some curriculum that they&#8217;re going to use that I created. It&#8217;s a 10 part zero waste educational curriculum that I&#8217;m real excited that they want to use. Another aspect is that before COVID, we had piloted diverting the food scraps from the lunch in this middle school. And that got put on pause, but we&#8217;re going to start that back up in August.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Amanda Waddle:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">So we&#8217;re lucky to have a community compositor here in Gainesville, that has agreed to pick up the food scraps weekly from this school. And since we already piloted, we kind of know that it can work. So we&#8217;re just going to have to start that back up again. So we think that actual practices of diverting food scraps, actual practices of recycling right. And then getting the education, overlapping all of that on why we work towards zero waste, why we do some reuse is so important, will really be valuable for these middle school students. So that&#8217;s one program that I&#8217;m really excited about.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Well, you&#8217;re really turning into a, all around zero waste if you&#8217;re getting into composting. So you&#8217;re doing wonderful things there. I don&#8217;t have any more questions. I would just like to take three minutes to go through the references, for other resources that people might want to, who watch this, who read this podcast, might want to go through. I&#8217;m just going to mention a few. I think people should contact and we&#8217;ll provide this information. Professor Cynthia Isenhour. I-S-E-N-H-O-U-R at University of Maine.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">She&#8217;s developing a whole array with her students and other professors, data on the sociology and economics of reuse. There&#8217;s a wonderful book that&#8217;s been out for a year, The Repair Revolution by John Wackman and Elizabeth Knight. And again, there&#8217;re several many references listed. I just wanted to say, on building deconstruction, there&#8217;s a wonderful report out from the city of San Antonio, Texas called Waste Within our Walls. And it&#8217;s a technical manual and policy manual for building deconstruction.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">And the final thing I&#8217;ll mention and we&#8217;ll provide, that Jess will provide this on the podcast this list, there are numerous webinars featuring reuse people, just like we&#8217;re doing here with the Repurpose Project. But I would say that we have on video recording at least 15 businesses, much like the Repurpose Center. They&#8217;re all slightly different, but of course they&#8217;re all focused on zero waste and reuse.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">So to conclude, I want to thank all Sarah, Nina and Amanda for one, their hard work. Two, for sharing the details with us. And I hope you don&#8217;t mind if you get a lot of questions from around the country, when this podcast gets put up by Jess. Jess, did you have anything to conclude with?<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">That&#8217;s all I have. Sarah, Amanda, if there&#8217;s anything else you want to add before we sign off? Otherwise, thank you so much for joining us today.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Be well. We&#8217;ll be in touch everybody. Keep up the good work as my dad would say. Thanks.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Thank you<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Neil Seldman:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Yeah. Thank you.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Thank you for tuning into this episode of the Building Local Power Podcast from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance. You can find links to everything we discussed today by going to ilsr.org and clicking on the show page for this episode. That&#8217;s I-L-S-R.org. While you&#8217;re there, you can sign up for one of our many newsletters and connect with us on social media. We hope you also take the opportunity to help us out with a gift that helps produce this very podcast and supports the research and resources we make available for free on our website.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Jess Del Fiacco:<\/td>\r\n<td style=\"width: 499px;\" width=\"319\">Finally, we ask that you let us know how we&#8217;re doing with a rating or review on Apple podcasts or wherever you find your podcasts. 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